Restructuring in the NEC - Interview with the President
2010-08-12 14:07 (comments: 5)
Jeff Nicholson interviews NEC President, Pastor Ian Sweeney
The North England Conference has embarked on a programme of cost cutting in an effort to place its finances on a more secure foundation. The steps being taken are aimed at making budget savings in the region of 10%. It has been known that for some years, the Conference has been relying on the Gift Aid returns to balance its books; “This not a safe course of action for us to follow as government policies on this benefit to charitable organisations can change at any time, placing the work of the church in peril,” says NEC President, Ian Sweeney. “Further, with all pension funds in deficit due to the economic downturn and the cost of the NEC’s contributions increasing each year and with the proportions of tithe sharing to higher organisations increasing, the time has come for us to have a radical rethink on how we can more effectively manage our limited resources going forward. Following is an interview with NEC President, Pastor Ian Sweeney, addressing some of these issues.
JN- Pastor Sweeney, the North England Conference is presently involved in a process of restructuring and realignment, could you outline the reasons for this and how it is to be achieved?
IS- I would use the terms restructuring and realignment only in a financial sense. Our Conference is operating in such a way that all the funds that we receive are either spent or accounted for, leaving us in a position with no ability to save. This is not good for the long term health of the Conference as we would find ourselves in a situation where we would be unable to survive any unforeseen financial crises. It is crucial for every organisation, be it a family or Conference to have savings or working capital to ensure the survivability of the organisation should unforeseen crises arise and it is a consequence of this situation that unavoidable steps have to be taken to decrease our workforce. These steps, however painful, must be taken to ensure the long-term health and welfare of the NEC.
JN- You are saying that the Conference is facing financial challenges, how do you account for this as the NEC’s quarterly financial reports show that tithe returns have been increasing above the rate of inflation and membership growth has been outstanding over recent years? Is this situation a new occurrence because your administration has been profligate in its spending or has there been a long term structural problem?
IS- I am very happy to see the continued loyalty of our membership to the mission of the church as reflected in the growth in our Conference membership to 8724 and also their continued financial commitment shown in continued tithe growth. However, the bottom line is that as income and numbers of congregations have increased so also have wage costs and the other everyday operating expenses of the Conference. We praise God for the membership growth, and it would have been nice to have seen a corresponding parallel in financial growth.
I would definitely deny that as an administration we have been profligate in our spending, it is just that the costs of servicing our membership has increased faster than has our income. Our operation of ministries and special events like Camp Meetings and Conference Sessions all have seen costs escalating.
Over the years the Conference sought to address membership concerns that some pastors were serving too many congregations, plus there were the Conference’s attempts to break new ground in evangelism and recent church planting drives, which all placed greater pressure on the Conference to grow the work force. All these have had an accumulated effect on the balance sheet of the Conference, hence the need for this restructuring.
JN- You say the Conference needs to increase its liquidity and build its reserves, please explain what that means in layman’s terms and why remedying this is so important?
IS- The working capital is the lifeblood of an organisation by which it meets its day to day operational requirements. Reserves are your savings put aside for the “rainy day” or moment of crisis. When and if an emergency arises we need funds to draw upon to meet such unforeseen challenges. Presently let’s say the Conference is taking in £100 and expending £100, essentially living from hand to mouth. Should emergencies arise we would have no reserves to draw on to tide us over. By TED policy, we need working capital equivalent to 20% of our annual operating expenditure plus covering all our restricted funds (i.e. funds held in trust for local churches and other organisations.) This is not only a policy requirement but it is good financial management to do so. If we carried on operating in this manner a day may come when we would not have the cash needed to meet our salary bill and would lead to insolvency. In order to address this situation we need to be able to have surpluses budgeted in future years and this is only achievable by reduction in expenditure (our major being employee costs) to within what our current level of regular income (being tithe funds) can support. This also guarantees that we start building up reserves going forward, hence the need for redundancies.
JN- You said earlier that the salary and expenses bill is the major expenditure of the Conference and that the only way to balance expenditure is to cut the wage bill by trimming the workforce. What kind of numbers are you thinking about and how will that be reflected in the bottom line?
IS- We are seeking to reduce the annual wage bill by some 10% or £400,000.
JN- Pastor Sweeney, I can hear members saying, balancing the books might be fine but how can our Conference leadership be cutting ministerial staff that are needed to service the churches and help it achieve its primary purpose, that of preaching the everlasting gospel?
IS- This is the real dilemma of our present situation. At the recent General Conference session in Atlanta, I noted that the highest growth rates in our churches around the world are in the places where churches are less pastor dependent and where greater emphasis is given to the principles outlined in Ephesians 4.12. It is my profound belief that every member is entrusted with the responsibility of evangelism, and it is the duty of the pastor and other leaders to equip and train the church for ministry. Lay involvement is the only way the mission of the church - that of proclaiming the Three Angel’s Messages - is going to be achieved. That is how the early church began, with every member taking ownership of ministry where God had placed them and that is how it is still growing by leaps and bounds in areas where membership are still committed to true discipleship and personal evangelism, and that is certainly how the work is going to be completed.
The PEACE school of evangelism operating in Birmingham has secured over 100 Bible studies in their first month of operation by knocking on doors, all of which are presently being followed up. How many congregations over the last three years in our Conference can say that they have made 100 contacts on the doors? What is happening at the PEACE school if replicated across the NEC would result in phenomenal growth. The work of the gospel will be completed only when the wider church membership takes personal ownership of their church and becomes committed to personal evangelism.
JN- People’s families, lives and futures are being affected by the necessary hard decisions that the Conference Administration is taking. What programmes have you put in place to give pastoral and emotional support to the colleagues and their families that will be affected by this very painful situation?
IS- Structures have been put into place that all affected employees and their families are aware of and can turn to for support as required.
JN- Though the constituency will understand the necessity for this unprecedented action, churches love their pastors and might be distressed by what is happening. What word of encouragement do you have to give them in this situation?
IS- I would ask that the Church membership, along with the NEC officers, continue to support and encourage their pastors in prayers and visitation. This is God’s church and we have every confidence that God has led and that He will continue to lead. Biblical history teaches us that no matter how dark and challenging the path might have seemed in the past; the prophetic word was that we could look forward with confidence to better days ahead. I want those affected by this situation to know that it is my deep conviction that their calling is sure and that God’s purpose will still be realised in their lives; He still has a purpose for them, there will be better days in growth, ministry and evangelism. When things improve opportunities for reemployment will occur.
JN- Pastor Sweeney, this retrenchment of workers must be a very painful exercise for you to oversee. From your perspective, what steps must be taken by the Administration and the wider membership to ensure that the Conference never revisits a situation like this?
IS- At Conference Sessions we often hear the cry for more department heads or larger projects such as a Residential Home for our seniors. These things may be noble and good, but the question we must always ask going forward is; ‘can they really be afforded and sustained in the long term by the Conference?’ We must be careful not to overreach ourselves financially, even for seemingly noble ends. Another thing that Administrators must keep always in sight is a more realistic membership/employee ratio in the light of the tithe income. Looking at it in terms of membership input, it is now time for those of our membership not faithfully supporting the cause of God to ‘step up to the plate’ and become more involved in planned giving, thereby helping to put the finances of the Conference on a more secure footing over the long term. Pastors and other district leaders need to be more courageous in their duty of Stewardship education challenging their members to greater loyalty to the mission of the church both in personal evangelistic effort and financial support.
JN- Thank you Pastor Sweeney for speaking to us and do you have any final words you would like to give at this time?
IS- I would like to ask all our brothers and sisters to continue to hold up in prayer those who are being affected by this process of financial restructuring as well as this Conference. I would also like to thank those who have submitted suggestions and criticisms, for they have challenged us as leaders to re-evaluate our plans more carefully and to be more diligent in the discharge of our duties to God and the constituency.



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Comment by Andrea Rayne | 2010-08-13
Pastor Sweeney, I would like to thank you and your staff for making this decision. I know that it has to be a difficult one, but in an age where people are still spending money as water, we are blessed and excited to see you standing for Godly principles. Although we are not there, we are and will continue to pray for you and your team! Daniel & Andrea Rayne
Comment by karen | 2010-08-15
It is unfortunate that a day of prayer and fasting and seeking the lords face, was not arranged conference wide so we could put our petitions before God, so we could see the salvation of the Lord.. It feels that we don't believe that God can come through for us, and we have resorted to man made solutions.. who eva heard of Pastors being made redundant.. this is a major spiritual blow to Seventh-day Adventism. Since 1844.
Comment by Concerned Adventist | 2010-08-17
I would like to thank Pastor Sweeney and the Conference leadership for their honesty and frankness regarding this situation. Many people I have spoken with seem to be of the opinion that redundancies cannot be in accordance with God's will. However, can it then be said that the NEC could recruit an additional 20 pastors as an act of faith and any subsequent redundancies would be viewed as a lack of faith? Where does counting the cost before you build a tower come into place (Luke 14.28) If I am understanding this interview correctly, it seems that the NEC is overstaffed in relationship to its budget. In an earlier comment to mine, it was asked "who eva heard of Pastors being made redundant.." Well I have. In 2 conferences in the NAD division. I seem to recall 1 of those conferences laid off over 40 workers! My personal response is going to be continued faithfulness and greater liberality as well as genuine heartfelt prayers for those who will be affected by the redundancies.
Comment by Ivan Kolev | 2010-08-20
A few questions:
1) Talking about the financial "health of the conference" has anyone thought of the spiritual health of the conference?
2) Do you really believe reducing the number of pastors will improve membership's spiritual condition? In areas where church is growing rapidly it is despite of the fact they lack pastors and not because of that. More on the same topic, I'd like my pastor to come and visit me at home as I may have some spiritual concerns or need advice. How is he able to do this anyway, as he serves 3 churches with a membership of 200+ people in an area of 60 miles diameter.
3) Are there other measures provided in order to cut ongoing spends and change our "church lifestyle", e.g. why we need to hire external venues for trainings and inreach events when such can be hosted by big churches at virtually no cost?
4) Has anyone thought of selling some of the church assets (properties), which are not fully utilised or such requiring high maintenance cost?
5) Last year churches were asked to financially support Newbold college. Why we had to do this as the church is not in a position to give jobs to ministers anyway?
6) Is there a vision going forward? Will there be new pastors hired after the reserves are restored (in 3-4 years time, at GBP400,000 per year)?
These are just some thoughts. On the main, it is everyone personal stand with God which matters. May God bless us all to be fully dedicated to the Lord despite of what happens around us!
Ivan
Comment by Concerned Adventist | 2010-09-01
As a bonafide member of the Seventh-day Adventist church, I am concerned about how we go about making decisions that affect its workers. Let me say up front that a wise, visionary leadership must make decisions that may sometime not resonate with the general membership, and that is ok, as long as it is clear that it is lead by God and for the good of the work of God and the people of God. Notwithstanding, much of the discussion I've read seemed to have been focused on the worker in the local field where the real work takes place. I have not heard any discussion about the seeming top heavy administration we have at the higher levels of the church. Questions: Why do we need large amount of administrators, directors and associates etc? Why is it that some who have reached retirement age are redeployed even after announcing retirement? It seems to me that it is always easier to cut others than ourselves. The worker at the grass root level is always to the first to be affected. And this is clear by part of the response given by Pastor Sweeney that there is obligation to honour higher organisation request for more of the tithe dollar. Anyways, we pray for and encourage all persons affected by the decision to curtail expenses. Not a member of the NEC but I encourage its members to rise up and be committed to God's cause. God Bless You All